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Any art you've found Repulsive?
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Posted by blueberry (macattack@fusionnet.com) on Sat, May 31, 03 at 20:16
...Vapid, pointless, cliched and boring. Alexandru Darida's work has always repulsed me and I can not explain exactly why outside of the string of adjectives listed above. I still can not understand why he is considered a European Master.
http://www.visionsfineart.com/darida/
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gotta say i agree with you on darida. pretty much anything abstract expressionist, and most video art (although there is some interactive stuff that seems really cool). carol dunham...hate his stuff.
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Good God...Carol Dunham sure does suck X-( ...think I'm gonna be sick. And let us not forget the venerable Thomas Kinkade "O' Painter Of Light" sooo F-ing frothy and unchallenging. I'm not kidding, these type of paintings literally make me agitated and nausious. I really don't know how the people who make these images can stand it! Let alone the poor fools who support them buying this tripe crapola. Here is a link that might be useful: Carol Dunham
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Freud and Bacon. I agree about Kinkade, too. Tell me, why is Kinkade so popular? What kind of people love this saccarine stuff??? Just curious.
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Mary- the dull and the naive, the same folk who gorge themselves on fast food and reality tv. For them the idea of art buying is just another form of "drive thru window".
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mary, i find the work of both freud and bacon brilliant. what is it about their work you find repulsive? i'll agree on kinkade, though.
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same here with freud, although after i watched a video interview with bacon i got a little turned off to his stuff...he's SO stupid, lol. and it doesn't help that his images are basically just gay porn do-overs. kincaide...i don't like the frilly pink-dogwood stuff you usually see, but i saw some he did of mediterranean seascapes, very beautiful and not in a chintzy way.
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Hey, did you ever hear the story about Bacon, where a burgaler was trying to break into his house? He had a glss ceiling over his bedroom, and the stupid guy fell through the glass and landed in Bacon's bed. Did Caon leap up and brandish a weapon? Did he run to call the cops? No, he had sex with the guy, then and there.
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| I will admit that Thomas Kinkade is boring to me. Most all his works look the same , but Thomas Kinkade does appeal to many. He is a good painter, and his technique seems to be making him richer and richer. Perhaps Kinkade thinks as long as it sells, keep it up. Knowledge is power in his case. On Bacon, I do not find his works repulsive. I think he was a brilliant painter that put his emotions onto canvas better than many. I find it fascinating that Bacon could paint morbid, distorted paintings and turn around and use vibrant colors in those very same paintings. When viewing Bacon, it helps to be open-minded. Anyone agree with me? Probably not...smile. I find most fruit bowls repulsive. When I walk in a house and see the fruit bowl painting on the wall, I want to yank it down and stomp on it. |
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| after yet another stint of soul-searching, my opinions about what art repulses me have changed somewhat. i've gained quite a bit of respect for the abstract expressionists. while most video or performance art still doesn't appeal to me, i must admit that i don't know a lot about either one. and i'd have to revisit carol dunham. i think that i've become more open-minded about art...moved out of my elitist shell a bit. the us-vs.-them, good art-vs-bad art thing appears more and more overrated to me as time goes on. there's art that's made by an artist who is being honest with him or herself, and then there's art made by artists who are not. i think the latter tends to pay a price in terms of quality, but the former is not ensured success nor great quality. i'm beginning to find that indignation reagarding what another person makes is a severe waste of emotion, thought and time. but all said, fruit bowl paintings suck :-) |
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| blueberry, Tsk! Tsk! How you do generalize about people you have never met. Do I detect a touch of intellectual snobbery in your words? |
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| CMc Tut! A good still-life, whatever the subject is an exercise in technique. A brilliant still-life is a wonder to behold. Years ago a friend took up still-life painting purely for the technical challenge it created. Think Dutch School, 17th Cent. |
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| kate, i was being somewhat fecetious. while i don't care much for traditional fruit-bowl still lifes, i do appreciate a good still life, no matter the objects represented. a classmate of mine from years ago, Donnie Copeland, had a show recently at Ouachita Baptist University called "Piles." 'Piles' consisted of still lifes of piles of fast food and junk food. hamburgers, marshmallows, gummi bears, and my absolute favorite, Peeps (the easter marshmallows shaped like rabbits). the style was that "new old masters", think Odd Nerdrum. really beautiful. it goes to show that the art of the still life is nowhere near dead. Janet Fish and Wayne Thiebaud are good examples as well, though Fish's work became a little stinted toward the end (i presume the end, is she still kicking?). |
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yes darida is horrible and Kinkade reminds me of another horror,popular in britain - Vettriano, a sort of sub Hopper - very sub. Insulting to the viewer really; artists like this don't think much of their 'customers'. More interesting is the question of painters like Bacon and Freud - I suspect that the subject matter is what people don't like in the case of Freud: naked people who are not conventionally beautiful, painted in a very fleshly and sexual way. As for Bacon, is it his despair and horror at the world that puts people off? Munch's 'The Scream'is in the news now because a version of it has been stolen - I've always hated it, but find it difficult to say why. But I don't despise it as I do Kinkade and Vettriano. Thanks for asking a very interesting question. Judi |
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| I learned a few months ago that 'The Scream' was inspired by the violent coloured sunsets Munsch observed following the eruption of Krakatoa. A critic wrote a column in the Toronto Globe & Mail 'Let's keep boring science out of art.' She was totally p****d off because she preferred the long held theory of alienation in the industrialized world. I found the Krakatoa connection very exciting. The idea that a small island so far away could influence Norway's weather is terrifying. It scares me! It made sense of the fragile bridge, over a surface turned to liquid. It explains the ghastliness of the colour too. I don't find it repulsive. I wouldn't want it on the wall, but it's a wonderful painting. |
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dear Kate - yes I knew about Munch being inspired by the strange effects of the krakatoa eruption. I agree that the critic's remarks about this are silly. In fact, I think that knowing about the Krakatoa influence on Munch adds to its message about alienation and despair. After all humans can do nothing about such huge natural events - we are helpless and insignificant before them. Even so, I can't like the painting - I've just bought a book on the Expressionists and perhaps I will be able to understand Munch better when I've read it! Best wishes |
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Thot I would spend a nice Sunday afternoon on an art forum and find I fell into a beehive of amateur critics. Kincaid was OK, but has changed and I no longer care for his work either. I guess it it is all right for Christmas cards and calendars, but that is about it. As for art I found literally repulsive: a university class exhibition. Statues of mushrooms all over the place. At least, that is what my husband and I thought they were, until we had to look at one through a lense. Then we realized the enire student lounge was full of not mushrooms, but the male sex organ - don't know if I can be more descriptive here, but I think you get my drift. A little too much of a good thing, you think? We did. jan |
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| Gramma...they was an artist in Boston that used chewed up bubblegum, hundreads or so to make the female anatomy as vaginas all over the place. Trying to undestand it, I couldnt, I just observed and kept going on in the museum. I was shocked, but liked the bravery involved to exhibit to the public something that seems so unthinkable( unless you are in the OB business, lol. Art is nothing more than an extentison of the person, by rejecting the art you are rejecting the person. Each persons extention is worth at least being validated...who said art has to be plesant...why it may be art that helps to stop wars. By the way, I did get to go to 4 cats in Barcelona, with my 2 little infants and DH. The kids were a handful to keep up with so I was not able to relax and enjoy the place, but the ambience was awesome! It seems that art should be used as an expression of the artists world, so thats where they are at. I wish more people would express themselves instead of worrying about pleasing an unknown audience. Graphic designers prostitute their art ususally creating something for others for the $$$ but it may not come from their experience or belief. That like advertising for a company that one doesnt respect, but you need the money so you do. That to me is the worse art in the world as it is a lie! I especially hate misleading commercials that try to sell products that are actually unhealthy and unneccessary. Respect yourself and know what you do that comes from your beliefs. That would be the art worth looking at. I am not necessearily looking for the over the couch type paintings either...but what perculates from the spirit and soul of ones being....and then gets expressed freely and with passion! Tell your story and be brave and strong. Vincent told his story, as did all the impressionist artsit. Monet painted his own beloved wife as she lied dead, because he mourned her so. Although I wouldnt want the picture to hang over my couch, the efforts are respected and felt as long as the painting exists. If more artsit would express themselves instead of prostituting themselves for someone elses greater gain...well there may be much less money being made, but the quality and respect for art would be elevated in the world! |
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Sounds like the nursing world and a lot others. Do it cuz it is you and you are interested in other's welfare and it will give you satisfaction. Some pay, when the children are doing without enough food and education. Makes me think of a church lunch, where some were fed a feast, some soup, some nothing. One of the hungry stole food from the ones with the feast. If we are hungry enough, I s'pose we might do the same. This broad implications as we think of starving individuals to nearly starving nations. Of course, starving can apply to many things besides food, freedom for one. Now that is food for a work of art, but will anyone be interested enough to buy it? Many people are not sophistocated when it comes to art and that is OK, but it also explains why some things, we might not like, are bought and hung when others are not. jan |
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Sorry,havnt read all posts. Have you heard of a UK artist called Tracey Emin? She produced a work of 'art' which was an unmade bed with dirty knickers,tampax etc lying around!!!!!Which is valued at something like £4,000. If its art, its cr*p art. How can that be considered talented when you have painting by Rembrandt,Turner etc which screams talent. I understand art changes but if that bed is art then I have a (much tidier) masterpiece in my bedroom at home. |
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