"Lost" is really done well. I like how they focus on a different character each week and how most have a little twist to their individual stories. I also like how they make the island so mysterious. The show sort of reminds me a little of the "Land of the Lost" and of course, "The Lord of the Flies" (Two of my favorites).

I think I read somewhere that there is suppose to be a connection between all of the characters...not sure if it's true, but it may help explain things.

I think the fact that there are so many things that are not resolved leaves us to ask questions and want more. It seems that, in this day and age, most shows feel compelled to have to resolve all the problems in one episode. Either that, or they move at a soap opera's snail's pace so that you lose interest. "Lost" seems to pace things just right, IMHO.

Its a refreshing show, to be sure, which is rare enough to make it worth watching, if just for that.

I did really enjoy "House" with Hugh Laurie on Tuesday. It's like "Medical Investigation" but with more of a story. Needless to say, I will thoroughly cook all my pork from now on!

So what happened with the 'Langalier-type' machine things? We haven't seen/heard much about them since the early episodes.

I have to say, tho - I HATED this past week's episode! SPOILER!!!

What was up with that crazy lady? I thought the whole thing was weird. the way they interacted, and then she tied him up and then she killed her whole family....I feel that it would have been worth something if she went with him but I just kept thinking, what was the point of the writers doing this? Why did they write this character?

My husband did point out, tho, that it may explain some of the strange animals on the island, like the polar bear, bc she and her crew were studying them.

spoilers ahead for last episode...

I am still not 100% sure what we are suppose to think happened to the people with the crazy lady ( I think her name is Danielle). I'm not sure if she just down and out killed the others because she was crazy, or if they got some strange disease, that either killed them or made them crazy and she had to kill them. It appears to me that Danielle thinks Alex is still alive. Maybe Alex left because Danielle was so crazy or maybe Alex is the crazy one. Even though Danielle seemed so crazy, Sayid did hear the voices too, so maybe in reality she was the only sane one left in the group. What do you guys think?

Additionally, I think Alex may be a girl, not boy since the Danielle referred to Alex as "her child". I think that Alex may have been the person who knocked out Sayid a couple weeks ago.

I hope/think Alex will figure into the future storyline and so will Danielle. It does seems a little odd to have another person (Danielle) living on the island alone and to just leave her like that, even if she is crazy. The writers seemed to treat her like just another storyline...like the "invisible dinosaur" or "the polar bear". I agree, I thought the lack of perceived followup on her character seemed very off.

Can anyone explain the specifics behind the cable? Was is suppose to be supplying power to her after all those years? Thanks

I was reading something yesterday and the writer suggested that they were all in the Bermuda Triangle?

Good point about "my child" - could be son - or daughter?

Also, I think she is so dillusional, that for all we know, she could have killed her kid but has blocked it out in her mind, and has convinced herself into thinking the child is still alive. DH and I were trying to figure it out, the kid has to be AT LEAST 16, right? Since she's been on the island 16 years. Did she say if the child was a baby when they got there? For all we know the kid could have been 6, or 10, or 12, which would make Alex much older than 16.

I am not sure either about the whole cable thing.. how did she manage to generate a battery for 16 years?

I think Sayid DID honestly hear voices/whispers/or whatever they are, because I think he has proven himself (from what we've seen) to be a pretty sound guy.

I do think Danielle's presence does explain the polar bear. in fact, the polar bear could have even been a baby when they got stranded but is grown up now.

Well, I found her character insufferable, really annoying...and I just couldn't for the life of me figure out why the writers would create her. I would imagine that she will come in later. It would have been helpful in some ways if she joined him back at the camp, her survival skills, her knowledge of the island, would have come in handy.

The show is very good. Each week I think I'm going to become bored with it, and each week I get more pulled into it. I like the whole Burmuda Triangle angle. Polar bears, dinosaur noises, things that just shouldn't be where they are. It's almost like they are all actually dead and existing in another dimension. 40 people just don't look that good after a plane crash.

I was really unnerved by Charlie's memory loss. Terror? Selective memory? Ego? Stay tuned, next week, folks, for another episode of... this is a tv show, not a movie... as we here continue to try to analyze it all lol

Black Cat, have you continued to watch Medical Investigation? That show annoys the dickens out of me. Which is putting it mildly. The lead lady doctor, formerly of The Practice, should be shot and never allowed near a scientific study. When she broke protocol for the benefit of her patient in that first episode I was screaming at the TV. And they were depicting it the "right" thing to do. And the show seems to me to be full of mushy feel-good crap that will lead to unintended consequences. Unintended consequences that are entirely predictable to anyone with half a brain.. Grrrrr.

As much as I disliked the Danielle episode, I believe that she will come back to play a major part. Also, like I said, at least her story would explain the crazy animals. Also she said that there were "others" on the island...and now Sayid believes this also. So this Ethan could be one of "the others" or he could be her son.

Also, did the psychic KNOW that she was going to get stranded on the island? If so, why would he put her on the plane? And how did he know that other people would want the baby? Here's a wild idea - perhaps the baby is going to somehow grow up and be the one to save them/get them off the island, so it was like the baby needs to be there.

The thing that struck me about last week's episode: Charlie said they only wanted the pregnant girl. They obviously want the baby (and we know the connection there bc of what the psychic said.) Doesn't it sound eerily like Rosemary's Baby?

The only thing that bugged me about the show was how a scuba diver drowns in a rip tide at the beginning of "White Rabbit". Wouldn't a scuba diver of all people know how to swim out of a rip tide?

But the White Rabbit episode, I don't know what you're talking about. It wasn't a scuba diver...where did you get that from? I understood it to be just some woman who takes a swim and got pulled out. They never say she was a scuba diver.

Well, I don't remember a scuba diver reference but I could be wrong. If you find out any more info let us know.

Anyway, wasn't the Locke storyline fascinating? So you don't really know if he truly has the skills or if he's just faking it. After all, when they went tracking in a more recent episode, he goes the wrong way, doesn't he? Is he just nuts? Is this hunter/warrior he seems to be just the man he always wanted to be? The man he couldn't get to be on the tour? Seems like it, based on his obsession with war-like games. Now, with the love interest, I was not surprised to learn that he called up "escorts" to keep him company, after all, who was he going to meet in his condition? But the fact that he projected all this love onto the phone-sex lady shows that he does not live in reality.

And speaking of condition, I also thought it was interesting that he only has been handicapped for four years. What about before then? And what caused it? DH postulates that it's psychological, merely for the fact that his legs seem to be in working order.

Or...do his legs suddenly work bc of the island and its magical powers?

One last thing which I am can't get out of my head and think about on a regular basis. In the very first episode, Locke begins to teach Walt, the little boy, how to play backgammon. He says, "One light, one dark.." and holds the pieces up. Then he says, "Do you want to know a secret?"

And then they cut away!!!!!! Is this driving anyone else nuts? What did he say? And it's GOT to be KEY info that they're leaving out!

Is the island giving everyone what they secretly want? Locke is getting his great adventure in the wild. Jack gets to demonstrate to his father that he is fully capable. Our Korean wife gets her husband out of her father's clutches. Her husband gets to keep his wife. Charlie is getting a life back. Clair is getting someone else to take the baby. Sawyer is confronting in the rawest way possible the man who destroyed his family by selfish indifference. Okay, maybe not the last. But it is fun to speculate.

a) they are all dead and waiting in purgatory. They all have things they need to "get past" in their lives, so in purgatory they rise above these things so they can move on in death. Charlie gets over his drug addiction, Locke walks, Jack gets past the guilt over his father's death, etc. The "monster" is their own fears. I am fond of this theory and I personally buy this the most.

2) It's all a dream. Either Jack's dream, or a dream shared by everyone in some existential way. In their fantasy/dream they don't have the problems of real life. Same examples previously listed, plus another is Kate's marshall dies. We have yet to see what the other back stories are.

The problems some people have with the above two theories is that it doesn't explain certain things, like the birth of Claire's baby (how can that happen in a dream?) and the existence of Danielle (also, a dream? unless she's in purgatory too)

3) The oldest conspiracy theory in this country: it's all a secret government plot. Ethan Rom is a humanoid/android (get it, ROM?)

4) Locke is the key to everything. He is somehow the guardian of everyone, helping each person to tap into himself/herself and get over their problems. I personally don't buy this bc a) Locke has his own share of problems and b) I think he is a phony of sorts and living in a bit of a fantasy world of his own.

5) A friend of mine thinks the baby is the anti-Christ and the psychic didn't want the baby to be exposed to the world.

A few little interesting notes:

The psychic said, "Don't let your baby be raised by another." But what I think he really said was, "Don't let your baby be raised be AN OTHER." Lots of references to "The Others" on the island. AND this is interesting - Ethan Rom is an anagram for Other Man.

There seem to also be lots of references to Paradise Lost and George Orwell. Someone had recognized the airline - Oceanic - as a reference from 1984....and apparently the numbers in Boone's tattoo add up to 84. But I personally think this a stretch. Oceanic is like "555" in Hollywood phone numbers, it's just something they use in Hollywood.

Ahhh...so many theories, so little time.

Any other theories or thoughts?

I am so excited; there is finally a new episode this week!!!!

I took Locke to be a reference to John Locke, the anti-Rousseau of philosphy. The natural state of man vs societal man.

Someone else on some board also brought up the idea of Locke = John Locke, but what I find more interesting, is you beinging up Rousseau - isn't that Danielle's last name? Hmmmm.....

Someone else on some board also brought up the idea of Locke = John Locke, but what I find more interesting, is you beinging up Rousseau - isn't that Danielle's last name? Hmmmm.....

Talk about a stumper with that suitcase, huh? So many twists in the plot! Sexual tension, yet more flashbacks, a little 'sexual preference' info, tsunami tides, gosh! Those writers are awesome!

I wonder what the significance of the miniature plane is? In the Kate flashback scene in the bank vault, we got to see just how good she was with a gun. Hmmmm, secret agent, perhaps? Bring-it-on!

They still have quite a bit to tell us about Kate. I guess that guy she shot in the knee wasn't the man she loved since she shot him to get the little airplane.

Any speculation on why the tide changed so quickly?

Pure speculation, but ...

Religious themes have been almost subliminal in this show. I'm beginning to think along the lines of "Once I was lost, but now I'm saved."

And Okay, I have a thing about names. John Locke was just too obvious, Delenn (okay, maybe this is really stretching it, but remember that she was of the spiritual caste on Babylon 5) turns out to be named Rousseau, then we get Ethan Rom. Jack is, of course, John, a biblical name if there ever was one and a last name of Sheppard? Since the beginning, I've had the 23 Psalm running through my head. Think about how many elements fit with the show so far. "He leadeth me beside the still waters, he resoreth my strength, and yea, though I walk through the valley of death ...." Isn't Charlie Lazarus?

Anyhow, I'm happy the show is back. Anyone else think the plane is an actual key to something? That Kate is still lying?

I think your biblical references are fascinating. I certainly have given thought to what some of the names mean but I didn't think of the bible. Shepard...wow!

Interestingly enough, we don't know everyone's real name - Sawyer's and Hurley's aren't real and we don't know what they are yet.

I like Rose. She's not too "biblical" for me. I think on what hand she is a little nuts thinking her husband is still alive, but bear in mind it might be a way for the writers to keep alive the idea that there are other survivors on the other side of the island so they can write it in later. But besides all that, I think she is the Rock of the group, she represents the having faith part, because without faith there is zero hope. I mean, what did people during the Holocaust do? People dealing right now with the trauma of the tsunami? During such times the questions about God comes up. Well, you have to have some kind of faith, trust, belief, whatever you want to call it. Everyone on the island seems to have a role and that is Rose's role, to have enough faith for everyone.

As for Kate, why couldn't she just walk into the bank and ask for that safe deposit box if she had the key? Why go through all this hoopla of romancing some guy who she clearly doesn't love, convince him to rob a bank and then go thru the motions of carrying out the plan, all just to get to some box? BTW, I *KNEW* when the envelope was opened it was going to be some dinky nostalgic item, nothing truly valuable. Interesting that it was a plane... kind of comes full circle, huh??

I don't think she's lying bc a) I think inherently she's honest, when Sawyer asked if it was her suitcase, she said no. She could have said yes. b) I think she feels something for Jack so I doubt she would lie to him.

I thought she was going to say it belonged to "the man she loved, her father." That doesn't mean that it's not her father.

Lastly, what's the "sexual preference" reference? You mean when Shannon asked Boone if Locke was his new boyfriend? I think she was being sarcastic, like just meaning that he was spending a lot of time with him. I say cute things like this to DH! I don't think she was inferring that Boone was gay.

Kate said she didn't have the right signiture to gain access to the lockbox.

I mentioned the 'sexual preference' thing because I feel strongly that she was indeed referring to Boone's identity. She didn't just say 'Is he your boyfriend, or something' but rather 'Is he your NEW boyfriend', which to me hints that there had been others.

p.s. I'm really impressed that you all have memorized their NAMES, 'cause all I can remember is Jack, Kate, Locke and Danielle!)

Any one else routing for Kate and Sawyer (boy is he a cutey or what!) to get together. I love their chemistry, and what about that kiss a while back!!! That Jack is already getting on my nerves. Why does he think he has some right to know what's in the briefcase (just 'cause he helped her find the key?). Oh yeah, and possibly letting Saywer "die" over the breifcase...come on, threating for Shannon's medicine was one thing, but because you're curious about a briefcase? Give it a rest. It's almost like he's a bigger bully now than Sawyer.

Oh, and I thought Shannon and Sayid surprising seemed like a cute couple too.

ps. I saw Kate (well, the actress) on a commercial late at night for "Live Links"--where singles can call and talk to each other. Just sort of funny to see her in a commercial. Anyone else catch it?

Yes I did get the "new" boyfriend reference, and I thought that for split second. But I still think should could have been just flinging around a cutesy comment. I say things like that to my hubby all the time! Meaning, just someone new you're spending time with. If Boone was hanging with one of the girls I could equally picture Shannon saying, "Is she your new girlfriend?" But alas, we don't know what their relationship is yet or their backstory, but supposedly they're getting to it soon.

Re the airplane, I dunno how I knew. It was a hunch I guess. Because, when the pseudo-boyfriend/robber said, "You staged this whole thing to get into a box!" I guess it dawned on me, it was going to be something that held more personal meaning. I didn't know what it was going to be, and I certainly had no idea it would be a toy airplane, but somehow I imagined it being something nostalgic, I thought perhaps it was a memento from her childhood. The reason it could be in the case is - assuming she fled the scene, she grabbed what she needed (after all she knew at that point the law would be chasing her): guns for protection, some money, and the airplane in the envelope. When the marshall caught her, I imagine he put all the stuff he found on her into the case. Now, being that the airplane was all she truly wanted out of the heist, she has been waiting a long time to get her hands on it, to hold it. So it was a big deal to her to finally have it.

Here's the thing tho - I don't recall her saying that she doesn't have the signature, but even still. Let's assume the guy is dead, since she claims she killed him. It seemed very easy for her to fake her ID to pretend she needed a loan, couldn't it have been just as easy to pretend to be a relative of the dead guy and prove it by showing she had the key? Couldn't she then have simply said, "I'm a long lost relative and I'm here to collect his personal effects?"

I agree, she just took all those things with her and then when the marshall captured her he threw all those things into the case.

Here's another thing - who were those people dead in the chairs in the water? Why would a suitcase that, presumably, would be under the marshall's chair, be down there under THOSE people?

Here's a crazy idea - I think maybe it was Kate and the marshall down there, you can't tell, their faces were so disfigured, but it could have been them and they're really dead, going with the "purgatory" theory. So the case was under their chairs. Also, I think the writers planted the clues earlier on, when you see her give him the oxygen on the plane, it shows that she cared (for whatever reason) about his welfare, and then the couple under the water, the girl is holding the man's hand, as if to comfort him or something.

Or...it could just be that the case went flying around like everything else on the plane and landed in the water.
We'll never know....

Hey, maybe she was a rogue U.S. Marshall and schrapnel-in-the-chest-guy was a former lover?

I dind't think the couple was Kate and the Marshall. I think the reason we saw Kate giving the Marshal oxygen was so we would know that even though Kate had done something illeagal, she was still a decent person, and personally I think most people may be holding hands in that scenario.

Then again, with this show you never know.

ps. Kate did say something about not being the matching signature, and in that case, if someone where dead I believe a death certificate would be needed and then only the person assigned on the will or the power of attorney of the dead guy would be able to get into the box.

And what about what she says to Jack about "It belonged to the man I loved/killed" (I can't remember the exact woids...) Could that person have been her father, not a lover?

Jray,
Professor Emeritus in his own mind

Interesting thought - doesn't the plane look kind of old? It has propellers. Like a military plane or something.

I agree that the idea behind the oxygen mask was to show that Kate was a decent person, after all, she didn't rob the bank to get money, she robbed it to get the airplane. But hey, you never know. Let's just say they are in purgatory, the writers could be giving us clues all along that we don't even know are clues. The girl in the water did have long flowing hair. And they were sitting in the same seats as Kate and the marshall. But I agree that could be anybody. I suppose we will find out eventually!

FWIW, They had a discontinuity glitch with the oxygen masks. I noticed with approval that she followed procedure and put hers on first. But a couple of cuts later, when she is putting the Marshall's on, she isn't wearing hers.

Chris,
She who pays way too much attention to this stuff.

Moongirl,I don't remeember seeing props on the plane,but in the first episode,when Jack is first coming around,there is a Jet Engine still attached to a piece of wing sitting on the beach.It's running and some poor guy wanders in front of it in a daze and gets sucked in,which explodes the engine,sending pieces flying everywhere.

Then again, who knows. Maybe Shannon really is dead and there's a fake clone walking around in her place--just kidding, but you never know with this show.

Anyone else notice Saywer at the police station when Boone was there? Guess this could be the start of how they are all connected.. A lot of them seem to have run-ins with the law.

And, what's up with the compass being off?

Strange, strange episode, but glad I watched.

So... if Shannon didn't really die, does this mean the scooped up pilot didn't either... or simply did not exist?

What are your thoughts about that trap door in the ground? Could it lead to some underground community or research facility?

I sort of got the hint from next week's previews that the young boy who faces yet another polar bear will get his wish as well... to find the hero in his dad.

I LOOOOOOOOOOVE the way this show plays with our minds like rag dolls! Hmmm, wonder if David Lynch is one of the producers... lol

As for Shannon, she is royally f#&!*d up! She plays mind games with people, including Boone. She only thinks of herself and does not think about consequences or the affects her actions will have on people. I think part of Boone's lesson is that he needed to realize that he is better off without her. I think Locke knows this, I think he knows that Boone can be better than he is.

But how does Locke KNOW all these things? He did the same thing with Charlie! It's like he thinks on a whole other level.

I think Locke "knows" these thing because he was the first one to encounter the monster in the pilot episode. Maybe once he had his experience, he realized that it was so beneficial to him that he wanted other people to experience it as well to see what their result would be. Locke has done nothing that suggest he has powers. He could simply be a wise, experienced outdoorsman with a mysterious face. Maybe he's more. I don't think we'll know for awhile. Suits me fine. I like being kept guessing.

The compass bit has me flummoxed. It would be off that much if they were at or close to the north pole - the magnetic pole is not at the geographical pole - which fits with the polar bear. But I think not. If a large electromagnetic field lies beneath the porthole Locke has found, that could account for it - assuming Sayid didn't move very much around the island as he studied the compass.

A large magnetic rock, a very large magnetic rock, might do it.

Ah, the joys of a thoughtful show.

Chris, I believe you about the relationship, but isn't Barbara Hersey a little old for him?

Now get this, I was reading the summary over on ABC's site and they said that Locke told Boone that the concoction Locke put on Boone's head was a hallucinogenic that caused Boone to have his vision. OK, I don't remember Locke specifically telling Boone that. That would mean that the monster and the island have nothing to do with it and that is was Locke. (Did I miss something?) I wonder if the site summarizer is taking liberties, or if they know something we don't. Then again, they could jsut be wrong, but I would think ABC's site should have the correct summary.

What's important to note tho, is that Locke now did the same things for Michael in last night's episode, where he helped him overcome his fears of letting Walt grow up.

Naveen Andrews isn't married to Barbara Hershey, they've been together for 6 years tho, they live together. Apparently he likes "older women." Read it in People (ok, I never read that trash, but there I was in the dentist's office) I flipped when I realized he is the Indian in the film The English Patient! I didn't recgnize him without his turbin! What I love tho, is that he said, regarding Sayid and Shannon, "I hope it gives middle America something to talk about."

Back to last night's episode - it's the kid! Walt has powers, which I have pondered for some time now. Back in the 2nd episode, he was looking at the polar bear in the comic book and then the polar bear showed up. The thing I DON'T get tho, is, what makes him special? It's not like he has special parents or anything, I mean, it's not like he was born to Mary and Joseph. Then again, they were ordinary folk, too. Funny that we had been discussing the Twilight Zone with Billy Mummy on another thread, bc Walt reminded me of that.

I wonder what it will all mean and if Walt will be the opposite of what the baby is destined to be.

I think it interesting that Walt's adopted father was afraid of him. And you are right, for this episode, Walt seemed very like the Mummy character from the classic Twilight Zone episode.

Oops, my mistake about the non-marraige. I'd read about Sayid being Kit from "The English Patient" and hadn't recognized him either.

Do you think Walt is a positive force or a negative one? After all, he didn't want to study birds of Australia and one crashes into the window. Then, his mom is ignoring him, and all of a sudden she starts to feel ill, then gets a blood disease and is dead in a week. Hmm! Is his real name Damien? LOL

I'd always wondered about Locke's legs. He was in the wheelchair, then he was walking. Does he have prosthetics, or was it subliminal like someone mentioned?

Just trying to fill in some blanks til I can catch repeats of my "lost" episodes.

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Minnie -- when my husband first turned on the show it didn't appeal to me and I went to sleep before the episode was over. After giving it a second chance I now enjoy it very much. When they re-run the series in the future you might try watching from the beginning.

That Ethan is some spooky! Like a robot or superhuman android. I wonder how they're going to get out of this situation...

Pat

If you want to catch up on the episodes you can visit abc. They have a log of each episode up to date, very detailed. It helps.

The episode for next week (a possible love triangle) looks a little more promising. I personally seem to enjoy the episodes with Sawyer in them the most.

As many times as he was knocked down he bounced back up again. Shooting him was probably the only way to stop him, but hey, we may never know for sure.

And yes, I won't be a bit surprised if more folks show up that weren't on the airplane's manifest.

Carla, I also enjoy those episodes where Sawyer has a bigger part -- hmmm ... I wonder why ;-)

Here's something - did anyone notice the OTHER castaways in the background? There were a couple of pans where there was a woman on the side of the frame and then a couple, a man and a woman.

Who are these people??? And what happened to Rose?

But we lost a few people. Joanna, the swimmer, the marshall, a few red shirts...

But who are the other people? And where has Rose gone? I am irritated that they don't even show her in the background.

Sawyer was set up. He shot a guy who owed his old pal money. It wasn't the original Sawyer at all. Disappointingly enough, I think we all saw that one coming. How interesting was it that it was Jack's dad who, unknowingly, encouraged him to go back and do it.

Also, will Sawyer ever get 100% confirmation that the man in the bar is Jack's dad (he must have an idea but truly, there's no way for him to know for sure, or is there??) And if he does piece it together, will Sawyer ever tell Jack what the father expressed about his gratefulness to his son?

moongirl, I noticed you mentioned that Locke said "the monster" was beautiful. It seems like I recall reading that somewhere, but I can't recall actually seeing it happen on tv. Do you (or anyone) remember when he actually said it and to who? Thanks.

If I recall correctly Sawyer did "say" he never killed a man, but then he drank (which meant he actually did kill a man). I think it was the only time they both drank.

I too agree that I don't think Sawyer would go back and kill Jack's father, but I could see him going back and killing the old friend who set him up. I think Sawyer probably thinks the guy he met was Jack's dad, but I take it that since Sawyer has nothing to gain by telling Jack, he might as well keep it to himself. I take it Sawyer's a 'knowledge is power' type of person and may be able to use the info. at a later time to his advantage.

I also agree that Sawyer now strongly suspects that he met Jack's dad, but it doesn't serve his purposes to mention it yet.

To add the discussion -

yes, Sawyer drank, indicating that he, too has killed a man. It was supposed to be a Whoa! moment when you realize they both have killed. The question, is who did SHE kill? Was it the man she said she loved? Maybe it's merely the guy she shot in the bank robbery. Maybe there's more than one. Notice btw, that episode was called "Outlaws" - and to further this idea, sawyer claimed his name was Jesse, he killed Frank the Shrimp guy and the guy who set him up was named James. Hmmm...Frank and Jesse James. I told you, nothing the writers do is random.

I loved this last episode, lots of good revealing and emotions. Did you all catch that the little girl's puppy was the one he gave Sun back during her episode?

Also, what I loved was the blood on the hands in the bathroom scene. In her episode we see her leave and we think he's an SOB. But here we get to see him in there, after she leaves and how he starts crying.

My quesion is: WHY WHY WHY did he say it was too late? I kept wishing he would go over and make amends with her but now it's too late. is it bc of the weight of everything he's been thru and the guilt? Or does he think the rift between them is too deep to go back?

My last thought about this show is be patient. People seem to be complaining that it's losing them. It has dropped to #10 on the top most watched shows (as opposed to #3 where it was in the beginning.) DH and I were discussing how it is hard to keep that same momentum up when you have 14 characters and lots of stories to tell. It all isn't going to get shown in an hour. I think it's still great!

On and yes, it was Hurley on Korean TV. DH caught it and we replayed it back on Tivo. Everyone is talking about it!

SPOILER AHEAD!!!!

The ABC website posts the synopsis for each upcoming episode. For the next one, called "Numbers" we'll get to see Hurley's backstory (finally!) It says that something happens to him that changes his life, something most Americans dream of. Now, all over the Lost websites, there is the rumor that he wins the lottery. Could be....but here's my question. Let's say he does, still, why would he be on Korean TV? Lots of people in America win the lottery, that doesn't make them international news. Maybe he invents something...who knows. But if the lottery thing is true, well then there's the inside joke when Walt says, "Hurley owes me $83,000." Well, we'll find out next week, won't we!?

So why did Jin take the beating? He wasn't guilty of anything and we know he knows how to fight. It wasn't shame over beating that little girls father, because he tore into Walt that time on the beach.

How significant was it that Sun switched to English to tell him she had wanted to leave him? Could he understand? Did that contribute to the "Too late" decision?

I noticed Hurley on the TV. I wondered what the program was or if he was on a commercial.

I don't think Jin truly understood her. First of all, if her intention was for her to understand her, she'd first have to KNOW that he understands English. Now if he knew English - and she also did but he didn't know that - why would they have conversations like, "What do you think is going on with everyone else on the island?" and the whole fiasco with the raft would never have happened bc Jin would have been able to explain himself to Michael.

No, like I said, I think it was a safe way for her to get it off her chest. I think she was busting to tell him but at the same time scared to REALLY tell him.

Pat

How did Locke know it was Claire's birthday? She didn't mention it until the cradle was almost built.